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wintrack - 10 rus
« : 08 Октября 2022, 16:11:38 »
добрый день.
Гуру wintrack - подскажите что делать - дома, вокзалы и прочее на плане отражаются не в масштабе. Пример пути в N-tomix? а здание вокзала менше Z - хотя написано что HO - можно как-то масштабировать здания на плане и как?

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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #1 : 08 Октября 2022, 19:52:43 »
Они должны пересчитываться автоматически. Но можно любой файл с домиком в Н0 перемасштабировать в N, и импортировать как N версию. Там в самом файле есть вначале параметр масштаба.

// Example with all elements of Editors
// factor: zoom factor for editor, multiplier for parameters
// default values:
factor 1.0,1.0

//...
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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #2 : 08 Октября 2022, 20:21:49 »
Глубоко извиняюсь - но у меня русская версия. и ничего такого как описано выше я не нашёл.

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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #3 : 08 Октября 2022, 22:01:35 »
Пример пути в N-tomix?
WinTrack10 , нет такой  рельсовой системы,  только в 13 версии.
самодельное что то?
а точно выбран нужный масштаб? в винтраке нельзя одновременно в плане разместить разные масштабы.

русская версия. и ничего такого как описано выше я не нашёл.
открывай tedit3d.EXE это редактор, с его помощью нужный файл из папки \Program Files (x86)\WinTrack10RUS\models\  с расширением .te3
пишешь всё нужное.
HOe.N.Z? . .  G.Oe.HO! ПолHOля , эNка и кое-что ещё.  Люблю У.Г.Ж.Д. особенно 13 версту и вообще 1 эпоху.
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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #4 : 08 Октября 2022, 22:26:47 »
из 13 перенес файл TOMiX 10 - это не сложно. 13 английская, но она убогая - взлом корявый 3Д - виды модулей в превю не работет

... и добавил:
Пример пути в N-tomix?
WinTrack10 , нет такой  рельсовой системы,  только в 13 версии.
самодельное что то?
а точно выбран нужный масштаб? в винтраке нельзя одновременно в плане разместить разные масштабы.

русская версия. и ничего такого как описано выше я не нашёл.
открывай tedit3d.EXE это редактор, с его помощью нужный файл из папки \Program Files (x86)\WinTrack10RUS\models\  с расширением .te3
пишешь всё нужное.

Огромное спасибо за подсказку tedit3d.EX

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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #5 : 09 Октября 2022, 16:01:48 »
13 английская, но она убогая

Переводил я, проблем не обнаружил, за исключением косяка с пробелом в расширении файлов. Моя вина - каюсь.

Что за отображение модулей?
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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #6 : 09 Октября 2022, 19:06:41 »
Ошибся - не модули а 3д модели - зданий, но всё равно коряво - не масштабирует в N - у меня модель вокзала от ВОЛМЕР - в N (33см*11см) - а в проге VO3561 -  он же но в HO размере, как ни менял переменную FACTOR в edite - либо меньше либо больше и ни как иначе. Тоннели тоже от HO а не в N. Библиотека огромная но дурная, в N практически нет моделей основная масса HO и часть ТТ.
Блинство - в какой проге вообще делают модели, не в ручную же пишут?

Макет накидал - в рельсах TOMIX - а мосты и здания - просто жесть, только контурами можно здания накидать - под реальный размер.

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Re: wintrack - 10 rus
« Ответ #7 : 09 Октября 2022, 20:56:07 »
Блинство - в какой проге вообще делают модели, не в ручную же пишут?

Ну может у комерсов есть свои приблуды, я рисовал в ручную в TE3 редакторе родном, вооружившись домиком и линейкой.

Vo3561 у меня вообще в режиме N не отображается.

... и добавил:
как ни менял переменную FACTOR в edite - либо меньше либо больше и ни как иначе.

Замена в самом файле не поможет. Еще раз: файл .te3 скопировать в папку например "Мои модели", переименовать, добавив например букву N.

Поменять там фактор масштаба: faktor 1.0,0.544

И импортировать полученный файл в винтрак "Extras/3D Model Import...".

Вот вольмер 3561 в N:

//Vo 3561 "Bahnhof Nordstadt"
//Bearbeitungsstand: 29.07.03
//Datei kompatibel zu Wintrack V6.1 und V6.0
//Modellumsetzung: Brigitte Dold, Hartenricht 2, 92546 Schmidgaden -->www.doldplan.de/eMail: info@doldplan.de

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//Giebel
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box -220,-40,87,-218,-33,98
box 220,40,87,218,33,98
box 220,-40,87,218,-33,98
box -220,3.5,113,-218,-3.5,124
box 220,3.5,113,218,-3.5,124

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//Kamine und Entlüftungen
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box 105,-15,100,112,-22,122
box -75,-15,100,-82,-22,122
box -185,-15,100,-192,-22,122
box -105,15,100,-112,22,122
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box -76,-16,100,-81,-21,122.01
box -186,-16,100,-191,-21,122.01
box -106,16,100,-111,21,122.01

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cylinder 160,-17,120,4,2,1,12,0,0,0
cylinder -160,17,100,20,1,1,12,0,0,0
cylinder -160,17,120,4,2,1,12,0,0,0

color 0.99,1,0.80
// Glas
box -218,-38.5,10,218,38.5,80
box -58,-48.5,10,58,48.5,80
cylinder -39,49.51,63,10,4,4,12,90,0,0
cylinder 39,49.51,63,10,4,4,12,90,0,0
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//Fenster
color 0.4,0.1,0.1
// Fenster: -198.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box -188.50,-38.90,24, -189.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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box -207.50,-38.90,60.50, -189.50,38.90,61.50
// Fenster: 198.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box 188.50,-38.90,24, 189.50,38.90,71
box 208.50,-38.90,24, 207.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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box 189.50,-38.90,51.50, 207.50,38.90,52.50
box 189.50,-38.90,60.50, 207.50,38.90,61.50
// Fenster: -168.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box -178.50,-38.90,24, -177.50,38.90,71
box -158.50,-38.90,24, -159.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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// Fenster: 168.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box 158.50,-38.90,24, 159.50,38.90,71
box 178.50,-38.90,24, 177.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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// Fenster: -138.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box -148.50,-38.90,24, -147.50,38.90,71
box -128.50,-38.90,24, -129.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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box -147.50,-38.90,51.50, -129.50,38.90,52.50
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// Fenster: 138.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Fenster: -108.50,-38.90,24, 3, 20,47, 1,77.80, 4,3,1,77.80, 0,0
// Rahmen
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box -118.50,-38.90,24, -117.50,38.90,71
box -98.50,-38.90,24, -99.50,38.90,71
// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Fenster: -39,-48,24, 2, 14,22, 1,1, 3,3,1,1, 0,0
// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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// Rahmen
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// Sprossen
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//Vordach
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//Bahnsteigdach
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box -185,-82,57,185,-84,58




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